
{"id":339,"date":"2016-09-23T14:19:05","date_gmt":"2016-09-23T07:19:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.travelpayouts.com\/en\/?p=339"},"modified":"2022-06-10T14:11:06","modified_gmt":"2022-06-10T11:11:06","slug":"interview-ivan-baidin-head-travelpayouts","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.travelpayouts.com\/blog\/interview-ivan-baidin-head-travelpayouts\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview With Head of Travelpayouts Affiliate Network"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2>Please, Tell Us, What Are You Working On? Are You \u00abthe Affiliate Network Boss\u00bb?<\/h2>\n<p>I\u2019m trying to develop the Affiliate Network, specifically improving the product, increasing the conversion rates, and entering the foreign markets. Besides strategic planning and setting targets for developers, together with managers I answer the questions asked through Technical Support, attract new partners and communicate with advertisers.<\/p>\n<h2>What did you do&nbsp;before Travelpayouts?<\/h2>\n<p>In&nbsp;the past I\u2019ve&nbsp;already been engaged in&nbsp;the Internet activities, to&nbsp;be&nbsp;specific, Affiliate Programs, mostly foreign. A&nbsp;friend of&nbsp;mine once \u00abbrought\u00bb me&nbsp;to&nbsp;the Internet, gave a&nbsp;link to&nbsp;an&nbsp;online money making forum and said \u00abRead this\u00bb. So, I&nbsp;started reading, gradually turning the accumulated knowledge into money. In&nbsp;other words, I&nbsp;was a&nbsp;regular affiliate member of&nbsp;different Affiliate Programs. Somewhere I\u2019ve&nbsp;managed to&nbsp;get into the top, somewhere I&nbsp;haven\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p>I&nbsp;took part in&nbsp;creation and promotion of&nbsp;several Affiliate Programs, almost all of&nbsp;them are already closed as&nbsp;they exhausted themselves.<\/p>\n<p>But my&nbsp;own project, which I&nbsp;myself initially launched, is&nbsp;still alive and it\u2019s&nbsp;related to&nbsp;foreign offers promotion. Then I&nbsp;found a&nbsp;partner and we&nbsp;started to&nbsp;grow and hire people. Now our team consists of&nbsp;43 designers, copywriters, developers, and <acronym title=\"Search engine optimization\">SEO<\/acronym> experts. All of&nbsp;them work remotely. They are mostly from the CIS, but we&nbsp;also have a&nbsp;teammate, for example, from Puerto Rico. I&nbsp;gave up&nbsp;the major part of&nbsp;the action and delegated all the operational activities to&nbsp;my&nbsp;partner, with me&nbsp;engaged in&nbsp;making strategic decisions only. In&nbsp;brief, we&nbsp;have a&nbsp;network of&nbsp;websites, blogs, and forums that attracts a&nbsp;lot of&nbsp;traffic, which is&nbsp;then sold to&nbsp;advertisers like Amazon and eBay.<\/p>\n<h2>How do&nbsp;you manage to&nbsp;balance your business with your main job?<\/h2>\n<p>As&nbsp;I\u2019ve&nbsp;already said, for my&nbsp;own project I&nbsp;do&nbsp;strategic planning only. On&nbsp;average, I&nbsp;spare like 1\u20131.5 hours a&nbsp;day on&nbsp;it&nbsp;and sometimes I&nbsp;don\u2019t&nbsp;for a&nbsp;couple days. By&nbsp;the way, we&nbsp;don\u2019t&nbsp;try to&nbsp;get in&nbsp;travel related business to&nbsp;exclude the competitive interests. In&nbsp;other words, doing my&nbsp;own business don\u2019t&nbsp;interfere with my&nbsp;main job in&nbsp;Travelpayouts.<\/p>\n<h2>How Would You Describe Your Workday?<\/h2>\n<p>I&nbsp;get up&nbsp;between 7 and 8 am, answer my&nbsp;email and browse statistics. Then I&nbsp;have breakfast and go&nbsp;to&nbsp;the gym. After doing sports I&nbsp;head to&nbsp;the office and then get back to&nbsp;the gym in&nbsp;the evening. Sometimes I&nbsp;skip my&nbsp;evening workouts. Before going to&nbsp;sleep, when at&nbsp;home, I&nbsp;check my&nbsp;email, Skype, and Facebook again. Well, this is&nbsp;my&nbsp;everyday routine.<\/p>\n<h2>Alright, and when do&nbsp;you relax then?<\/h2>\n<p>My&nbsp;mind winds down very well while I\u2019m&nbsp;in&nbsp;the gym. Possibly those are the only hours when I&nbsp;really don\u2019t&nbsp;think about my&nbsp;work at&nbsp;all. Anyway, for me, doing sports is&nbsp;another proof showing that everything is&nbsp;possible. You know, I\u2019m&nbsp;not the sharpest knife in&nbsp;the drawer, but being stubborn and working persistently on&nbsp;reaching the goal may result in&nbsp;growing muscles and bringing success in&nbsp;business. The main thing is&nbsp;not to&nbsp;draw back and breathe easy.<\/p>\n<p>Over time my&nbsp;mind becomes apathetic, cause the island lifestyle is&nbsp;really slow paced and laid-back. In&nbsp;a&nbsp;word, it\u2019s&nbsp;like living in&nbsp;a&nbsp;countryside.<\/p>\n<p>So&nbsp;that\u2019s&nbsp;when I&nbsp;call for some impulse. To&nbsp;get that impulse, for me&nbsp;it\u2019s&nbsp;just enough to&nbsp;get out for a&nbsp;weekend to&nbsp;some neighbor Asian megalopolis&nbsp;\u2014 Singapore or&nbsp;Hong Kong&nbsp;\u2014 where I&nbsp;can get charged with an&nbsp;\u00abenergy of&nbsp;a&nbsp;city\u00bb. This charge is&nbsp;quite enough for a&nbsp;month of&nbsp;life on&nbsp;the island. That\u2019s&nbsp;why I&nbsp;try to&nbsp;travel somewhere every month. All in&nbsp;all, I&nbsp;am&nbsp;satisfied with my&nbsp;life in&nbsp;Thailand.<\/p>\n<h2>What do&nbsp;you think are the advantages of&nbsp;living in&nbsp;Phuket?<\/h2>\n<p>Phuket is a perfect place to live with your family and raise your kids. Sun, sea, fresh air and fruits all the year around. Here you need fewer clothes \u2014 no need to buy furs, boots and hats. It\u2019s always summer here.<br \/>\nThere are almost no&nbsp;traffic jams. Even if&nbsp;there is, they usually happen at&nbsp;around 8\u20139 am&nbsp;or&nbsp;5\u20137 pm. And our office hours are 12 am&nbsp;till 9 pm&nbsp;Thai time, so&nbsp;we&nbsp;don\u2019t&nbsp;get into local congestion.<\/p>\n<p>Besides, there\u2019s multilingual surrounding here, so since their birth, children communicate with same-age foreigners speaking English, Ukrainian, Russian, Thai or Chinese. In future they will become tolerant individuals perfectly speaking several languages.<br \/>\nBut to&nbsp;be&nbsp;honest, when children born, I\u2019d&nbsp;try to&nbsp;move to&nbsp;the USA to&nbsp;get education, but only after they are 5\u20136 years old.<\/p>\n<h2>For sure, the Bounty Island has its negatives, isn\u2019t&nbsp;it?<\/h2>\n<p>Sure. First of all, it\u2019s a closed community. Your colleagues, who are also your friends, you work together in the office and spend your weekends together as well. Many girlfriends or wives who come to the island with our fellows have no job and suffer because of this. It\u2019s a great luck if your lady-love already has some remote job or a kid to dedicated all her time to, otherwise a guy will have a lot to bear. It\u2019s difficult to get a legal job in Thailand and for sure it will be a low-paid one. That\u2019s why we had a couple of situations when guys had to return back home, start working remotely or even quit.<\/p>\n<p>Secondly, there are a lot of things that you get used to when living in Tomsk but you don\u2019t have them here. For example, for girls there\u2019s no place to wear high-heels or evening dress, no place to have a walk except of shopping centers. You can\u2019t even have a walk on the street cause there\u2019re no sidewalks and the weather is too hot.<\/p>\n<h2>How did you get to&nbsp;Phuket and settled in&nbsp;Aviasales?<\/h2>\n<p>First time I&nbsp;came to&nbsp;Phuket for wintering far back in&nbsp;2008 with my&nbsp;friends. I&nbsp;liked the island a&nbsp;lot, though I&nbsp;had almost nothing to&nbsp;compare with. Before I&nbsp;took a&nbsp;batch tour to&nbsp;Hurghada and been to&nbsp;Montenegro as&nbsp;an&nbsp;independent tourist. After that wintering I&nbsp;started to&nbsp;go&nbsp;to&nbsp;Phuket every winter.<\/p>\n<p>To&nbsp;the point, I&nbsp;met Kostya Kalinov (founder of&nbsp;Aviasales) during my&nbsp;first wintering. I&nbsp;moved for permanent residence here 4 years ago and have been working in&nbsp;Aviasales already for 3,5 years. Kostya offered me&nbsp;to&nbsp;join him several times but I&nbsp;had my&nbsp;own business that brought me&nbsp;nice profit, so&nbsp;I&nbsp;didn\u2019t&nbsp;want to&nbsp;burden myself with some extra work and what is&nbsp;moreover go&nbsp;to&nbsp;the office (!!!). I\u2019ve&nbsp;never done that before in&nbsp;my&nbsp;life. But all in&nbsp;all it&nbsp;happened that I&nbsp;considered all pros and cons, thought about it&nbsp;and decided to&nbsp;give a&nbsp;try.<\/p>\n<p>When I&nbsp;came to&nbsp;the company, there were about 10 thousand affiliates there and the Travelpayouts team was just formed, so&nbsp;it&nbsp;was decided to&nbsp;separate the Affiliate Program itself into a&nbsp;single project, because formerly it&nbsp;was just an&nbsp;Aviasales Affiliate Program.<\/p>\n<h2>So&nbsp;you\u2019re&nbsp;4 years abroad. Do&nbsp;you miss your home?<\/h2>\n<p>I don\u2019t miss motherland and go there rarely. For instance, last September I\u2019ve been to a conference in Kazan for 3\u20134 days. This year I will be travelling to my native Tomsk, Staryi Oskol to see my grandma, and Moscow to attend my friend\u2019s wedding, but not longer than for 6 days.<\/p>\n<h2>Tell Us About Travelpayouts Team. Some of Your Teammates Work Distantly. How Do You Communicate?<\/h2>\n<p>Currently our team counts 16 people: developers, managers, designers. We&nbsp;also reach out to&nbsp;freelance illustrators, translators or&nbsp;developers for help. I&nbsp;am&nbsp;very proud of&nbsp;all of&nbsp;our guys. Our team is&nbsp;probably the most solid among all those teams from Aviasales.<\/p>\n<p>In&nbsp;our office we&nbsp;have a&nbsp;big TV&nbsp;and all the remote part of&nbsp;team is&nbsp;connected to&nbsp;us&nbsp;by&nbsp;Skype all the time, in&nbsp;other words, we&nbsp;all see each other during the whole working day and can discuss issues anytime. Yes, many of&nbsp;us&nbsp;are scattered all over the world and have different time zones. For instance, recently we&nbsp;had: Bali, St. Petersburg, Moscow, Khabarovsk, Samara, Barnaul, Kazan, Izhevsk, Phuket, London. Of&nbsp;course, it\u2019s&nbsp;difficult for some of&nbsp;us&nbsp;to&nbsp;get up&nbsp;at&nbsp;8 am&nbsp;Moscow time, because every day at&nbsp;9 we&nbsp;have a&nbsp;standup meeting which everyone should attend. But remoteness doesn\u2019t&nbsp;affect us&nbsp;doing our jobs well. All of&nbsp;us&nbsp;cope with it&nbsp;and can plan our time.<\/p>\n<h2>Are you the one to&nbsp;hire new team members?<\/h2>\n<p>Yes, I&nbsp;personally select suitable candidates and interview them. And then I&nbsp;send them to&nbsp;our HRs to&nbsp;sign papers and clarify contracts.<br \/>\nI&nbsp;remember how we&nbsp;were looking for our first manager, <a href=\"https:\/\/travelpayouts.com\/blog\/interview-elena-kosmynina\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Lena<\/a>. We&nbsp;posted a&nbsp;job on&nbsp;hh.ru and wrote a&nbsp;post on&nbsp;Facebook. To&nbsp;be&nbsp;honest, I&nbsp;can\u2019t&nbsp;remember where we&nbsp;found her. But in&nbsp;general I&nbsp;think that Facebook is&nbsp;enough to&nbsp;search for employees.<\/p>\n<p>Now I&nbsp;can easily entrust our managers with a&nbsp;task to&nbsp;find a&nbsp;business developer or&nbsp;a&nbsp;developer-freelancer. And they perfectly cope with it, so&nbsp;I&nbsp;don\u2019t&nbsp;even need to&nbsp;take part in&nbsp;the process.<\/p>\n<p>Of&nbsp;course, they regularly write us&nbsp;even if&nbsp;we&nbsp;don\u2019t&nbsp;have open positions. In&nbsp;this case we&nbsp;communicate to&nbsp;the applicant but he&nbsp;will need to&nbsp;convince us&nbsp;that we&nbsp;won\u2019t&nbsp;cope without him. As&nbsp;for now, nobody has managed to&nbsp;do&nbsp;it.<\/p>\n<h2>How difficult is&nbsp;it&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;interviewed by&nbsp;you?<\/h2>\n<p>An interview is divided into a couple of different stages. The first one is emailing, then maybe some test, and a Skype interview (maybe even several calls). I often talk on life\u2019s topics by Skype, for example, about achievements on previous position or what the one could bring into our team. It\u2019s important for me to find the psychological compatibility. We have a very solid team and it\u2019s important to get a person who will perfectly fit in working processes and all the rest of activities as well. All of us go in for sports \u2014 surfing (for example, Igor, our developer, is a member of National Surfing Team), snowboarding, motorcycling, and travel together.<\/p>\n<p>Generally, interview structure is&nbsp;developed individually and strongly depend on&nbsp;mood. I&nbsp;don\u2019t&nbsp;have any prepared scripts. Let\u2019s&nbsp;say, I&nbsp;may ask some nonsense like \u00abWhat kind of&nbsp;seasoning are you?\u00bb or&nbsp;start to&nbsp;dissuade from getting this job because life on&nbsp;Phuket is&nbsp;not as&nbsp;easy as&nbsp;it&nbsp;may seem after spending a&nbsp;two-week vacation here.<\/p>\n<h2>And Last, but Not Least, What Are Travelpayouts Plans for Capturing the World?<\/h2>\n<p>Now we&nbsp;actively work on&nbsp;the White Label. We&nbsp;already have 50 affiliates engaged in&nbsp;alpha\/beta testing. I&nbsp;think that in&nbsp;September we&nbsp;will release the flight booking part and then go&nbsp;on&nbsp;with the hotel one. But it&nbsp;has lower priority as&nbsp;it\u2019s&nbsp;less popular.<\/p>\n<p>For sure we&nbsp;will improve <acronym title=\"Application programming interface\">API<\/acronym> and add more data into it. By&nbsp;the end of&nbsp;the year we&nbsp;want to&nbsp;totally redesign the user account, improve the statistics and its layout, make affiliate\u2019s&nbsp;funds flow more transparent, totally redesign statistics interface and improve integration with 3rd party advertisers.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s difficult to plan the work too far out in the future since travel services market constantly changes and we need to stay synced with it. There is a general trend, but we basically are aimed to work in the international market, since abroad they have really poor travel partner market \u2014 webmasters use product affiliate programs, like Booking.com or some definite flight company program. We also have competitors emerging so they keep boosting us to develop quickly and efficiently.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What questions would you like to ask Ivan?<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>You\u2019ve\u00a0already heard a\u00a0bit about some of\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.travelpayouts.com\/en\/interview-developer-travelpayouts\/\">Travelpayouts team members<\/a> and ends and outs of\u00a0other Aviasales team workflows. But we\u00a0haven\u2019t\u00a0introduced our head of\u00a0Travelpayouts Affiliate Program\u00a0\u2014 Ivan Baidin. So, we\u00a0clean up\u00a0our act. 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